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		<title>By: Grandma&#8217;s crocheting &#171; Seven angels, four kids, one family</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandma&#8217;s crocheting &#171; Seven angels, four kids, one family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 11:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] May 7, 2008 Posted by philangelus in family, knitting.  trackback  A while ago I had two posts about Grandma&#8217;s lace. That inspired me to get out the set she made for my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] May 7, 2008 Posted by philangelus in family, knitting.  trackback  A while ago I had two posts about Grandma&#8217;s lace. That inspired me to get out the set she made for my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hookedonstring</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>hookedonstring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story, not matter how you &quot;lace&quot; it. Thank you for sharing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story, not matter how you &#8220;lace&#8221; it. Thank you for sharing. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lace, part two &#171; Seven angels, four kids, one family</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Lace, part two &#171; Seven angels, four kids, one family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an update to the Lace post based on new information. Well, new to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an update to the Lace post based on new information. Well, new to me.</p>
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		<title>By: housewife2000</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>housewife2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see photos of her lace, and don&#039;t ever insinuate that what is here isn&#039;t the &#039;real stuff&#039;. She had amazing talants, amaziong, and I am glad that you shared them with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see photos of her lace, and don&#8217;t ever insinuate that what is here isn&#8217;t the &#8216;real stuff&#8217;. She had amazing talants, amaziong, and I am glad that you shared them with us!</p>
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		<title>By: philangelus</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>philangelus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly I&#039;m going to have to go to my mom&#039;s and photograph the &quot;real&quot; lace, then. I didn&#039;t realize what I had here wasn&#039;t representative of The Good Stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly I&#8217;m going to have to go to my mom&#8217;s and photograph the &#8220;real&#8221; lace, then. I didn&#8217;t realize what I had here wasn&#8217;t representative of The Good Stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not so much that the center piece is woven.  Originally crochet, then called &quot;nun&#039;s lace&quot; was worked around a woven fabric.  This was used to decorate such things and the cloth that covered the alter in church and the hems of baptismal gowns.  Only later did the idea of &quot;crochet in air&quot; that is to say, without a starting fabric, come into being.  

The give-away is the seam on the corners.  Were it crochet she could have just continued the pattern around.  Sadly, sewing gets the short shift of all the fabric arts.  People don&#039;t often give it the respect it&#039;s due, but just look at the die cut around the bottom piece, especially the way she has it wrap the corner.  Now realize how thin that fabric is and how much it must have moved under her scissor as she worked.  That takes some real skill to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not so much that the center piece is woven.  Originally crochet, then called &#8220;nun&#8217;s lace&#8221; was worked around a woven fabric.  This was used to decorate such things and the cloth that covered the alter in church and the hems of baptismal gowns.  Only later did the idea of &#8220;crochet in air&#8221; that is to say, without a starting fabric, come into being.  </p>
<p>The give-away is the seam on the corners.  Were it crochet she could have just continued the pattern around.  Sadly, sewing gets the short shift of all the fabric arts.  People don&#8217;t often give it the respect it&#8217;s due, but just look at the die cut around the bottom piece, especially the way she has it wrap the corner.  Now realize how thin that fabric is and how much it must have moved under her scissor as she worked.  That takes some real skill to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: philangelus</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>philangelus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The piece in the center is definitely woven. I didn&#039;t realize that made a difference. And yes, she could sew incredibly well too. I&#039;m very fabric-art-stupid, but what you said makes sense. :)

Of course, to her generation, it wouldn&#039;t have been &quot;fabric art.&quot; It was just what you did when you  made a handkerchief, or a baptismal gown, or a whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The piece in the center is definitely woven. I didn&#8217;t realize that made a difference. And yes, she could sew incredibly well too. I&#8217;m very fabric-art-stupid, but what you said makes sense. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, to her generation, it wouldn&#8217;t have been &#8220;fabric art.&#8221; It was just what you did when you  made a handkerchief, or a baptismal gown, or a whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For most of history people didn&#039;t read patterns.  Patterns issued to people knitting during WW II and the Civil War were more like specifications.  &quot;Using a medium weight yarn and size 1 needles, cast on 72 stitches.  Work 2 inches of 2X2 ribbing then 5 of stockinette.  Work a 2.5 in heel flap and then a 6.5 inch foot.  Decrease the toe in the normal way.&quot;  Vague guidelines.  Today it&#039;s more like.

&quot;Using a sock weight yarn and size 1 needles cast on 72 stitches.  Join, being careful not to twist.

Cuff.  
Row 1:  Knit 2 Purl 2.
Repeat row 1 until cuff measures 2 inches from start.

Leg
Row 1: Knit.

Repeat row 1 until leg measures 5 inches from cuff/7 inches from cast on edge.

Heel
You will begin working back and forth on half the stitches (36).
Row 1:  *Slip 1.  Knit 1.  Repeat from * across.
Row 2:  Slip 1.  Purl across&quot;

You get the idea.  This was normal.  This was what people were expected to know how to do.

There are some rules in place, even for lace.  If you know what you&#039;re doing you can break them, but for knitting you normally want to lean your decreases away from your yarn overs, so &quot;K2Tog YO&quot; or &quot;YO SSK&quot;.  For crochet you chain and skip stitches, so there are no decreases to lean.  

Sc chain 1. Skip next sc.  Sc in following sc.  If you want a bigger hole, you chain a longer chain.

Sc chain 5. Skip next sc.  Sc in following sc gives a long dip.
Sc. Chain 19. Skip next 5 sc.  Sc in following (sixth) sc.  Gives more of a long oval.  And when you&#039;ve done it enough times you can picture what&#039;s going to happen.

After that, it&#039;s basic math.  If you do two yarn overs, you have increased 2 stitches.  You must decrease 2 in order for it to work out.  You want about half of your decreases to learn one way and half to lean the other or your garment will lean one way or the other.  You can use that for effect, to spiral a pattern around a sock for example.  

It looks to me like what you have there is some of her sewn work.  The center looks, at least from the picture, like it&#039;s woven not crocheted.  The lace portion shows seam lines radiating diagonally from the square, and that&#039;s not a normal feature of crochet.  Look at your own granny squares and you&#039;ll see what I mean.  The lace work itself looks a lot like tatted lace.  

That said, the lady had some mad sewing skills there.  A project like that isn&#039;t easy, especially in the bottom piece where she&#039;s connecting the mesh to the square after cutting the shape out so perfectly.  And she works it out perfectly with no puckering and extremely tiny stitches.  The corners where the lace meets are perfectly mitered.  Clearly, she was a woman of remarkable ability, not just with a crochet hook, but with a needle and thread as well.  These are fabulous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For most of history people didn&#8217;t read patterns.  Patterns issued to people knitting during WW II and the Civil War were more like specifications.  &#8220;Using a medium weight yarn and size 1 needles, cast on 72 stitches.  Work 2 inches of 2X2 ribbing then 5 of stockinette.  Work a 2.5 in heel flap and then a 6.5 inch foot.  Decrease the toe in the normal way.&#8221;  Vague guidelines.  Today it&#8217;s more like.</p>
<p>&#8220;Using a sock weight yarn and size 1 needles cast on 72 stitches.  Join, being careful not to twist.</p>
<p>Cuff.<br />
Row 1:  Knit 2 Purl 2.<br />
Repeat row 1 until cuff measures 2 inches from start.</p>
<p>Leg<br />
Row 1: Knit.</p>
<p>Repeat row 1 until leg measures 5 inches from cuff/7 inches from cast on edge.</p>
<p>Heel<br />
You will begin working back and forth on half the stitches (36).<br />
Row 1:  *Slip 1.  Knit 1.  Repeat from * across.<br />
Row 2:  Slip 1.  Purl across&#8221;</p>
<p>You get the idea.  This was normal.  This was what people were expected to know how to do.</p>
<p>There are some rules in place, even for lace.  If you know what you&#8217;re doing you can break them, but for knitting you normally want to lean your decreases away from your yarn overs, so &#8220;K2Tog YO&#8221; or &#8220;YO SSK&#8221;.  For crochet you chain and skip stitches, so there are no decreases to lean.  </p>
<p>Sc chain 1. Skip next sc.  Sc in following sc.  If you want a bigger hole, you chain a longer chain.</p>
<p>Sc chain 5. Skip next sc.  Sc in following sc gives a long dip.<br />
Sc. Chain 19. Skip next 5 sc.  Sc in following (sixth) sc.  Gives more of a long oval.  And when you&#8217;ve done it enough times you can picture what&#8217;s going to happen.</p>
<p>After that, it&#8217;s basic math.  If you do two yarn overs, you have increased 2 stitches.  You must decrease 2 in order for it to work out.  You want about half of your decreases to learn one way and half to lean the other or your garment will lean one way or the other.  You can use that for effect, to spiral a pattern around a sock for example.  </p>
<p>It looks to me like what you have there is some of her sewn work.  The center looks, at least from the picture, like it&#8217;s woven not crocheted.  The lace portion shows seam lines radiating diagonally from the square, and that&#8217;s not a normal feature of crochet.  Look at your own granny squares and you&#8217;ll see what I mean.  The lace work itself looks a lot like tatted lace.  </p>
<p>That said, the lady had some mad sewing skills there.  A project like that isn&#8217;t easy, especially in the bottom piece where she&#8217;s connecting the mesh to the square after cutting the shape out so perfectly.  And she works it out perfectly with no puckering and extremely tiny stitches.  The corners where the lace meets are perfectly mitered.  Clearly, she was a woman of remarkable ability, not just with a crochet hook, but with a needle and thread as well.  These are fabulous.</p>
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		<title>By: xdpaul</title>
		<link>http://philangelus.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/lace/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>xdpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should all be stunned that her crochet work would now be featured on something called the internet, viewable by almost anyone on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all be stunned that her crochet work would now be featured on something called the internet, viewable by almost anyone on the planet.</p>
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